Thursday, June 16, 2011

Hate List by Jennifer Brown

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105 comments:

  1. Allyson-

    I have finsished reading the book. it's very interesting and teary book. I recommend to anyone to read. it's enjoyable to read.

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  2. adam
    i probably would agree with allyson if i knew the details but other than that it does seem like a good reader.

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  3. Allyson-

    I was reading first and second of the book. I felt i want to cry because she lost her boyfriend to the shooting after he shot several people. I was thiking like the girl in the book. I felt I was worried and scared when she return to her high school.

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  4. paige
    so far the book is good hopefully it gets exciting quick

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  5. Allyson-

    Adam, the book is very good and is amzing to read. You can read and you might like the book.

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  6. Jaren,
    I think I should consider reading this book. It looks interesting.

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  7. Yvette Pilkington

    This was a book that really had me thinking. To put myself into Valerie's mind was an amazing experience. To find your way from darkness to light, is a journey I wish we all knew how to make with ease. I loved how Valerie came to need others to make this journey back to herself. Read it!!!!

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  8. Allyson

    Paige, i agree with you on the book and its exciting parts. you can understand this events that's happening from Valerie's POV and to understand what she is thinking and recalling the past events.

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  9. leo
    I feol bad for valerie because no one ceors about her every one think's she should be dead even her parent's.

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  10. the part that im at is kinda boring hopfuly it picks up soon

    paige

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  11. matt
    i agree with leo except the part about her parent's

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  12. i agree with you leo the book at first was really good but the part im at is kinda boring hopfuly it gets good soon valerie right now is going back to school after her boyfriend shot a bunch of people and then shot and killed his self
    paige

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  13. the book really doesnt make me feel angery,sad or depressed it make me tired and im also starting to lose interest in the book all together thats why im hoping it picks up soon

    paige

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  14. i think everyone has there own hate list but nick took the hate list way to far its one thing to hate but another to hate and actually kill

    paige

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  15. Kurt
    After reading for the past few days, i really got into the book a lot, and i really can't really relate to having dating someone, then them shooting up the school then worst of all killing themselves.

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  16. Kurt
    So far in this book, it's been very good, i just wish everything wouldn't have to be so hard for valerie.

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  17. I agree with Allyson I think this is a very emotional book so far I really like it I love how detailed and descriptive it is.
    - Brittany K

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  18. Angie
    Herweck
    7

    Ms. Gunnell is awesome. I'm really excited to read my book. I heard my book is about a school shooting, which sounds scary.

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  19. I just finished the novel, and I really enjoyed it. The ending did not really come to all of the expectations that I had for it, but it was pretty good. Overall, it was an amazing book and I would recommend it to anyone. I believe this novel was chosen because it was first, written very well. Second, this novel takes the reader through a roller coaster of emotions along with the characters in the book. "I tried not to make eye contact with anyone- the sound of noses blowing was too deafening" (Brown402) It will force the reader to stop and take a moment to think about their own lives and the impact they have on people.
    A.Hoffman

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  20. Chris A
    Mrs. Parks HR 2

    I just started this book a week ago and its extremely detailed. Its great! the way that the story is told is good. I could recommend this book to anyone. you can sense her emotions as you're reading the book. As the book progresses it shows you the after affect of what happened at her school. and how its affecting her life and the peoples around her. i can tell as i progress i will know it ll be good. and some of what happeneds is a shock. as far as i am im soo anxious too keep reading this book.

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  21. Eric A.
    Mrs. Parks 2nd hour.
    The setting affects the thoughts and feeling of the characters in the book in many ways. One of the settings that I did not forget was when the main character that was the girlfriend of the shooter walked in her new class room and everyone even the teacher stooped and stared at her and then the teacher said moving on. Later on in the class a girl had a mental break down because the girl that they thought helped with the shooting was in her class and stormed out because she was a victim. This setting effected the thoughts and feeling of the character because everyone thought she was part of the shooting and help out with the shooting and thought she shouldn't be at school and thought it was wrong for her to be there and everyone’s emotions rose because of her(shooters girlfriend) being in the same class room when she helped in the shooting in their eyes.

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  22. Isaias A.

    Mrs.parks


    The setting affects the characters thoughts a lot because when she decides to go back to school everyone looked at her weird because they thought she was the cause of the shooting but she was actually a victim because she had no idea that her boyfriend would decide to kill all the people she had in the hate list. There was one point where she walked in the classroom and everyone stopped what they were doing and stared at her even the teacher. I would freak out if everyone stopped what they were doing to stare at me and then talk about me.

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    1. Heer P.
      Mrs scheller 1st hour
      Isaias A.,
      I agree with her because when valerie decides to go back to school everyone looked at her weird because they thought she was the cause of the shooting but she was actually a victim because she had no idea that her boyfriend would decide to kill all the people she had in the Hate list,every one stared at her,but mrs tats told her not to blame herself and she feels little comfortable,when she met her friend she even feel more comfortable when she talked to them.And even I freakout when everyone stared at me.

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  23. Remy K.
    Mrs. Parks 4th hour
    The setting, a high school in California, has a big impact on the character Valerie. The setting makes her think differently. She thinks that the shooting was her fault but in reality, it was Nick. Being at school again makes her feel nervous and scared. She talked to a girl that she never thought she would talk to ever since the incident. My reaction having to adapt to the characters environment would be scared and frightened because I wouldn’t want to go back to the same place where someone I loved, hurt the people I cared about most.

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  24. Ben M.
    Ms.Parks
    The Hate list has multiple settings throughout the book but none of which truly makes the main character, Valerie, less miserable then the last. The book start her off in her house and it is there where she explains the false sense of happiness her family throws on top of her. Then there is school. School is very miserable because before her former boyfriend “shot up” the school, she was picked on relentlessly but now at her school she is feared by all because they think she was involved in the shooting. The book also switches between past and present showing what happened at the shooting and how she felt directly after. She is in the hospital now due to an accidental gunshot wound to the leg and everyone thinks she is guilty, and her time in the hospital gives her nothing to do but to piece together the tragedy she just endured. I am easily overcome by stress so in all of the places she has to face it would be very hard for me to not crumble.

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  25. Elle R.
    Mrs. Parks 5th hour
    The setting of the book is at school. This setting affects Valerie because once she returns to school, the responses of fellow students cause her to believe that she is partially to blame for the shooting. If Valerie would have not returned to school, she may have had an easier time moving on with her life. She would not have had to deal with immense judgment from other students, and with that she may not have begun to doubt herself. I don’t know how I would react to this. I probably would be hurt over the loss of my boyfriend, and the fact that he killed several students and a teacher, much like Valerie is. But unlike Valerie, I don’t think I would blame myself for the shooting despite the opinion of my peers.

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  26. Brandi W.
    Mrs. Parks Mrs. DiCarlo 5th Hour

    The setting for this book is Darvin high school, and it has a very big impact of the character, Valerie, because she was part of a school shooting her boyfriend planned and now she has to return to school. She is freaking out and she keeps feeling her leg throbbing, where she was shot, but her therapist keeps telling her it’s all in her head. When she returned her friends try to stay away from her; they would not even let her eat lunch with them. I do not think she has adapted to going back to school yet. She is still taking every day at a time. If I was in Valerie position I would probably not return to school. I would not be able to handle going back to the place where my boyfriend killed my friends and teachers.

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  27. Valeriya M.
    Mrs. Scheller 1 Hour

    Valerie,the main character of the book, is a senior at Darvin high school this year. Her boyfriend shot people in the commons last year and then afterwards shot himself. He was the only person who could understand her perfectly, who she knew well, at least, that's what she thought. But now he's dead, and she has to go back to the same school, where now everybody gives her looks, her parents still yell at each other at home, she never fitted in at school, and now it gets even worse, her friends try to avoid her, some students blame her for what happened. I don't think it was a good idea to go back to the same school, at least, it doesn't look like I would be able to handle all this pressure from home,school and the therapist. I think her adaptation process would require time and much of effort, I wonder if things are ever going to get better.

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  28. Heer p.
    Mrs scheller 1st hour
    The setting of this book is Darvin high school.This main character of this book is girl named Valerie and she was scared because her boyfriend shot the other student and then he shot himself and she was so scared after that incident because everyone also blamed her. And she don’t want to go to school after her vacations becaused everyone blamed her.and her mom and her therapist tell her that nothing was like that what she was thinking about it was all in her head.Even her other school teachers were telling her to join the school because she was the one of the smart and bright student.but valarie won’t came out of her room at all. And she also describes how she feels sitting in her room alone.And her therapist was telling her not to feel bad it was her boyfriend who did that it was not you.and she wants to come out of that situation and she tries a lot to come out of that situation but she feels so akward to go to school however she tries to go.

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  29. kelsey c.
    Mrs. Parks 3rd hour
    The main character of this book is Valerie. The setting of this book takes place at Darwin high school where a school shooting occurred and without even knowing it valerie was in some way apart of. On top of the fact that their was a school shooting and people died, the crazy thing about it was that her boyfriend was the one who was pointing the gun at people including himself. This impacted her life tremendously; all she could think about was that day. replaying it over and over again in her head. Going back to that school after summer was over was very difficult and she didn't think that she had the strength to do it. Half of the people hated her so much as if she was the one shooting people, and the others just felt sorry for her because she didn't know she was dating a psycho killer. I don't know how valerie went back their and walked through those hallways because I don't think i could be that brave, but she did and she came to realize that even though she didn't have any friends, no boyfriend, and everyone hated her it was better to face her biggest fear rather than run away from it forever.

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  30. Tess M.
    Mrs. Scheller 5th hour
    The setting of Hate List switches between the past and the present. In the past, it tells about a girl, Valerie, and her boyfriend Nick, as well as many other people. While reading about the past, it leads up to Nick shooting up his school, and shooting all the people him (and/or his girlfriend) hate. Nick ends up killing himself. In the present, it’s about how Valerie must deal with the aftermath and returning to school. This affects her because people are blaming her for the shooting as well, although she did not have any part in it. She struggles with going back to school and having so many people hate and blame her, and she doesn't know how to deal with it. If I were in this setting, I’d feel very similar to her. I wouldn't want to return to school, and it’d be really hard for me to try to start over, and make people realize I was not at fault.

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  31. Emma H.
    Mrs. Scheller 7th hour
    Valerie, the main character, is a senior at Darvin high school. A few months, prior, her boyfriend had shot up the school and killed, and wounded multiple people. Though Val really had no part in this homicide, she’s been blamed by many. The setting occurs mostly in two different ways, it shows her life before, and after the shooting. The fact that Valerie has to go back to the very place that held so many painful memories has been incredibly rough on her. And if going to a place where the entire student body is terrified of you, try going back home to a broken family, where she’s also being blamed. She’s scared, and heartbroken by the fact that she has to return to her school. If I were her, I’d be just as anxious. Teenagers are intolerant enough as it is, but if I was a suspect in the killing of innocent kids, I’d be just as nervous to get out of there as quickly as possible.

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  32. Valeriya M.
    Mrs.Scheller, 1st Hour

    Valerie feels like she doesn't fit in, that she doesn’t share any interests with the people at school, she’s different from them. She found her group of friends and she feels comfortable with them, they are considered to be losers and outsiders. And I don’t blame her. She was part of that “school family”, but things change and she realized she doesn’t find interacting with most of the people at school interesting enough. Valerie’s parents fell out of her life a while ago, they were too busy with their own lives, their fights, their own problems. They forgot that their children need them. And that’s who I think we should blame. The family’s environment played a big role in Valerie’s life, she wanted to get out of the house most of the time, she didn’t like to be at home, she’d rather hang out with her boyfriend Nick, loser just like her, who would understand her and her problems.

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  33. Heer P.
    Mrs scheller 1st hour
    I agree with Valerie’s decision to go to school again.She hardly make herself her to go to school .And to face everyone.but her decision was correct.When she walks through the corridor valrie feels herself uncomfortable but she notice everyone was busy with their own work and while she feel herself very lonely and she don’t interact with anyone, she found her group while she was walking and feels comfortable with them and she had small conversation with them.Her mom helped her to come out of that situation and to move out of the house and in school. Mrs Tates was taking her to classes and also telling her not to blame herself for the situation .It was her boyfriend who shot students not her.And If I was there at that situation I would have moved on in my life forgetting all my past I would have never think about that guy again in my life.

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  34. Eric A.
    Mrs parks 2nd hour

    I disagreed with the actions of nick( the killer) when he saw these kids in the corner and a teacher was over them garding them with his hands out streched. Nick is screaming at the teacher saying "WHERE IS SHE!" and he was talking about one of the girls on the hate list he couldnt find and the teacher said he doesnt know who you are talking about so then nick shot the teacher just because he didnt know where the girl was and the teacher would not answer him.

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    1. Isaias A
      Parks hr 4

      I agree with you Eric, Nick did not know what he was doing when he shoot those kids because the teachers was not a target, but since he did not tell him where one girl was he shoot him too.

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    2. Tess M.
      Mrs. Scheller 7th hour
      I definitely agree with you Eric, he definitely should not have shot Mr. Kline. Kline was just trying to protect the kids and the other teacher and Nick went even more psychotic because of this. Instead of bringing a gun to school and going crazy, he should of thought about his actions first and realized he needed help. He could of talked to Valerie about it and she probably would not have judged him since she evidently loved him very much.

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  35. Chris A
    Parks HR 2
    I disagree with the actions of nick. When he was pulling kids out of the lunch room and trying to find out if they’re the ones on the list of people. Especially when nick was look for the girl in the corner and he shot at the teacher protecting the girl in the corner. And when Valerie was running at her boyfriend trying to stop him and got shot was a bad decision. Because when she got shot she passed out. And then nick took his own life in the process.

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    1. Tess M.
      Mrs. Scheller 7th hour
      Chris, I agree with you that Nick obviously shouldn't of shot anybody. However, I don't think it was a bad decision for Valerie to run after Nick. Yes, she got shot, but her wounds weren't fatal. I think she believed that she could stop Nick, and convince him that he was in the wrong. But it was better for her to at least attempt, than to just watch it happen.

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  36. Isaias A
    Parks hr4

    I disagree with nicks because of his decisions and actions. Nick was the shooter that targeted kid’s which Valerie had on the hate list. Nick took the list to far and literally go to the school and shoot kids who were on the list. Valerie did not want to happen. I understand bullying is not good but killing people because of it is going too far. Nick and Valerie could have told their parents and teachers to prevent everything that happened. Valerie read that after the shooting the school was closer than ever she thinks that nick was a hero in some way. I disagree with her because it does not take a shooting to bring a school together and prevent bullying.

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  37. Chase M.
    Parks 4th hour

    I agree with the decision Valerie made to go back to school, however I disagree with the way that Valerie does not fully acknowledge the way other people were traumatized by the shooting. I believe that Valerie is behaving this way because she has felt misunderstood. I think that the way she was portrayed was not completely accurate. Even though Valerie may be upset about how people view her she needs to understand that this is their perception. When someone says something to her she could try explaining to them that there is more to the story then is known.

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    1. Elle R.
      Parks 5th hour

      I agree that Valerie needs to be more understanding of other’s feelings. But at the same time, I feel like students need to understand that Valerie is not actually to blame for the shooting. Although she may have created the hate list, it’s not like she intended for those students to be actually harmed. Nick was the one who took things way out of hand, while Valerie was simply expressing her emotions.

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    2. Remy K.
      Parks 4th hour
      I agree with Chase. It was a great idea for her to go back to school but she shouldn’t let people get to her because she knows the whole story, not other people. She is defiantly misunderstood by her parents the most. I think she should try to explain what exactly happened to everybody.

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    3. Valeriya M,
      Mrs.Scheller, 1st Hour

      I would like to disagree with you, Remi. I don't think it was a good idea for her to go back to that school. Things were never going well even before the shooting, she's now recovering from everything that happened in her life and trying to convince people at school that it's not her fault is too much effort right now. She should have moved and start a new life.

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  38. Elle R.
    Parks 5th hour

    Lately in the book Valerie has been putting off Jessica and the other new friends that she has made. I disagree with her decision to do this. Valerie believes that she does not need friends to make it through high school, and that if anything, she is better off without friends. She also believes that she needs to cut off all ties with everyone just because a few people are uncomfortable with her attending school after the shooting. I believe that Valerie needs support from others. She needs to be reassured that she is not alone in this world. I think that she should be truthful with Jessica, rather than trying to hide things from her in fear of what Jessica will think of her. At this point, Jessica cannot think any worse of Valerie. I don’t see why Valerie feels the need to hide things from her.

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  39. Ben M.
    Parks 5th hour

    I disagree with how Valerie acts in the book when she is still obsessive about her dead murderous boyfriend. She shows very little resentment towards him even after her shot and killed many people. I can see why she would be sad about it at first but she should be more angry and realize he was a bad person which honestly I think she knows he is bad deep down but has been in denial for so long but once she says something at a STUCO meeting about him being bad, she gets angry at herself and continues to think of him as a nice guy. I think she needs to realize how bad he was and pass on from the overextended first stage of grief.

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    1. Elle R.
      Parks 5th Hour

      I agree that Valerie needs to move on with her life. She does need time to grieve over the loss of Nick, but she also needs to stop glorifying him. He’s not the person she thought he was, and she needs to learn to accept that. She shouldn't be angry at herself for thinking he’s a bad person.

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    2. Valerie M,
      Mrs. Scheller, 1st Hour

      I agree with you, Elle. I think it is necessary for her to let the situation go, start a new life, find new friends, it's time for big changes! And I feel that going back to the same school wasn't the best choice for her to make, the struggle would be much less, if she moved with her family somewhere else.

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  40. Tess M.
    Mrs. Scheller 7th hour
    I disagree with the way Valerie somehow feels like it’s her fault. She had no idea Nick was going to bring a gun to school and shoot the people they didn’t like. She fails to realize that she is not responsible for his actions, and probably couldn’t of done anything to change his mind had she knew he was going to do this. I think she just feels guilty for being so oblivious to who Nick really was, and hates herself for it. She should instead try to move forward and slowly forget about him, rather than dwelling on what she thinks she maybe could have done differently, or signs she thinks she should have seen. It’s too late now, and she should try to heal herself and make people realize, it was not her fault.

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  41. Emma H.
    Scheller 7th

    I think part of the plot is actually the process of Valerie getting over that.I think it's hard for all of us to really comprehend, because this hasn't happened to us, but she lost someone she really loved. Though he was a bad guy, she knew a part of him that none of us knew. She eventually needs to come to a good spot in her life, where she can live her life without his presence haunting her. But I think all of her friends and family telling her to suppress all of her feelings towards him isn't helping her get to that stage of grief where she should be.

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    1. Remy K.
      Parks 4th hour
      I agree with you Emma. Her friends and family suppressing her feelings isn’t helping her move on with Nick and the shooting. Even though he was a bad guy, she still thought of him as the Nick when she first met him. And people don’t quite understand that.

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  42. Remy K.
    Parks 4th hour
    I disagree with the way Valerie thinks about herself. She thinks the shooting was her fault which it wasn’t at all. The character is thinking this way because the one that she loved the most, hurt the people that she cared about or now cares about. This is wrong because Nick did all of it and she didn’t even know he was going to do any of it. She shouldn’t feel like she should take the fall for him. I suggest for Valerie to stop feeling guilty and start thinking that just because her boyfriend did it doesn’t mean she did.

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    1. I agree with you because i disagree with the way Valerie think about herself she thinks that shooting was her fault which wasn't at all she was very much hurt because whom she loved the most have betrayed her and harms the people . this is wrong because all this Nick has done she was not a part of this at all.i suggest her to forget her past with Nick and move on in her life and not to feel guilty.

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  43. Valeriya M.
    Mrs.Scheller, 1st Hour

    The biggest external conflict in this book that I see is the conflict between Valerie and other students at school. She doesn’t fit in, doesn’t feel comfortable in the crowd of them, they make fun of her, give her offensive nicknames. The reason of this misunderstanding is that Valerie is just simply different from most of the students at her school, she doesn’t share any interests with them, she’s bored and tired of them all. If there were no bullies at school, but only nice and tolerant teens, everything would be different. The Hatelist would never exist. I can’t imagine myself in Valerie’s shoes. That would be extremely hard, I don’t know how I would be able to handle all that pressure, but most likely that I’d ask my parents to be homeschool

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    1. I agree with you because I see the conflict between Valerie and other students at school and don't feel comfortable in the crowd of them and they make fun of her and the reason is that Valerie is just different,she don't share any intrest with them and she is tired of them all and if I was there at her place it would be difficult for me to face everyone in school and i cant handle all that pressure.

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    2. Remy K.
      Parks 4th hour
      I agree with you, I don’t think I could handle the pressure of everybody especially after the shooting. She doesn’t share any interests with them which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But I would probably asked to be homeschooled too or atleast try to finish the school year like she is trying to do. I think her therapist helps a lot though.

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  44. Heer.p
    Mrs scheller, 1st hour
    I disagree with the way Valerie somehow feels like it’s her fault. She had no idea Nick was going to bring a gun to school and shoot the people they didn’t like he was going to do this.She don’t realize that its was not her fault and instead of moving on she remembers the days that she use to spend with Nick and recalls her past. I think she should instead try to move forward and slowly forget about him, rather than dwelling on what she thinks she maybe could have done differently, or signs she thinks she should have seen. It’s too late now, and she should try to heal herself and make people realize, it was not her fault.she should move on in her life forgetting all past of Nick

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  45. Chris A.
    Parks HR 2
    The biggest conflict of the book was the school shooting when nick started making the list to kill people it was only the spark of the main conflict. The shooting affects the plot by showing the affects and emotions that kids go through when a shooting occurs. The girlfriend of the shooter returns you can see her emotions by showing how uncomfortable she is walking in the school and how everybody looks at her differently. People yell at her telling her that it’s her fault when it really wasn’t hers others are also deeply affected by the shooting not just herself but the whole school.

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    1. Isaias A
      Mrs.Parks 4th hour
      I agree with you Chris, the shooting was the biggest conflict in the story because that leads to the rest of the story. Shooting all those people is inhuman. I feel bad or he family of the victims because I CANT IMAGINE finding out that one of your family members was involved in a school shooting where they are supposed to be safe.

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  46. Eric Arnold
    3rd hour
    Mrs. Park
    I think that the most important conflict of the book is the shooting that happen in the commons. I think this is the biggest conflict because this is what the whole story is about and it’s important to the plot because it shows how the kids feel towards nicks girlfriend because they think she helped in the shooting and how she felt about that area (the commons). My reaction to this was almost sick because I don’t know how someone can just shoot all of the insistent kids and a teachers that hasn’t done anything and makes me feel sad for the family’s and just sad because of what happen.

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    1. Remy K.
      Parks 4th hour
      I agree with you Eric. I don’t know how someone could do this to all of these people especially his girlfriend. Now Valerie feels like she has to take the fall for what her boyfriend did just because they were dating and that’s not right.

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    2. Isaias A
      mrs.parks 4th hour
      I agree with you Eric, I also felt sick because I don’t understand how someone can just shoot all those people and not feel sympathy and soothing a teacher who is just protecting he students is inhuman . I kind of feel bad for nick because he got bullied but shooting all those people is sick.

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  47. Remy K.
    Parks 4th Hour
    I consider the most important conflict in the book is the shooting at the high school. Jessica broke Valerie’s iPod and after it happened she told Nick. Nick walked up to Jessica and told her she had been on the Hate List for a while then fired shots at the students who had been on the Hate List and some teachers and including Valerie. After he did the shooting, he shot himself. I think its important to the plot because it was a major tragedy that no one knew was coming. My reaction to this conflict was surprised because I didn’t think somebody could hurt someone they love and then off themselves to end it all.

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    1. Elle R
      5th hour
      Mrs. Parks
      I have to agree that the shooting also surprised me. From the descriptions of Nick in the book, it does not seem like something he would do. I was especially surprised that he shot Valerie. Even though it was an accident, you think that he would be more cautious with the gun while she was around.

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  48. Isaias A
    Mrs. Parks 4th hour

    In “THE HATE LIST”, my opinion of the most important conflict was the shooting in the commons. The shooting is the most important thing that is happening in the book the because the book bases the story in the shooting. The shooting leads to Valerie taking classes to make sure she does not have any suicidal thoughts. The story is really sad because of the shooting and that gives the story a sad tone. The news in the book says that after the shooting the schools is closer than ever and no one is left out in the school.

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    1. Tess M.
      Mrs. Scheller
      I disagree, Isaias. In my opinion, the biggest conflict in the book so far is Valerie against herself. The shooting was definitely a conflict, but it's not even about that anymore. Now Valerie has to deal with guilt day-by-day, blaming herself for something that was not at all her fault, because of the event. Now she struggles with whether or not to accept the new friends into her life, or to try to deal with her problems by herself, which, in my opinion, is the biggest issue in this book.

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    2. Valeriya M.
      Mrs Scheller,1st Hour
      I want to strongly disagree with you, Isaias. The shooting is definitely not the biggest conflict and the theme of the book. It's the biggest action, but the most important conflict would be her environment and Valerie(before shooting),or Valerie vs herself(after shooting). I find the 1st conflict more important and valuable, as it explains why that everything happened and how Valerie's surrounding affected her life.

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  49. Ben M.
    Ms.Parks

    The most important conflict in The Hate List is actually an internal conflict in Valerie. She blames herself for the shooting and starting the Hate List. Because of this conflict Val has a very hard time making connections with her old friends and establishing new relationships. She also blames herself for the affair her dad is having and the social strain her brother has for being a brother of a “killer.” The entire book is based on this guilt but day by day, the guilt slowly deteriorates. And it’s this that makes this the most important conflict in the book.

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    1. Elle R
      5th hour
      Mrs. Parks
      I agree with you, Ben. The struggle Valerie faces with herself is the foundation of the book. Without it, the book would just be a recap of the shooting. The guilt she faces with the events after the shooting is important to the theme of the novel, which is that sometimes you need the help of others to be successful.

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    2. I agree with you because the main conflict is Valerie hates herself for no reasons and about the guilt she faces when she goes to school. Because of this conflict Val has a very hard time making connections with her old friends and establishing new relationships. She also blames herself for the affair her dad is having and the social strain her brother has for being a brother of a “killer.” The entire book is based on this guilt. And it is the main conflict of this book.

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    3. Heer.p
      Mrs scheller 1st hour
      I agree with you because the main conflict is Valerie hates herself for no reasons and about the guilt she faces when she goes to school. Because of this conflict Val has a very hard time making connections with her old friends and establishing new relationships. She also blames herself for the affair her dad is having and the social strain her brother has for being a brother of a “killer.” The entire book is based on this guilt. And it is the main conflict of this book.

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  50. Brandi Wellman 5th Hour
    Mrs. Parks Mrs. DiCarlo
    The most important conflict, in my opinion, in the book is the conflict between Valerie and herself. After the shooting, she does not know who she is anymore. Her friends are ignoring her, she is growing away from her family, and everyone at school thinks she is the bad guy. On the first day of school, all she wanted to do was leave and never come back. She could not make up her mind of what she wants and who she is. She does not even know if she still wants to go to college anymore.

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    1. Tess M.
      Mrs. Scheller 5th hour
      I agree with you Brandi, I think the most important conflict thus far is definitely Valerie against herself. After the shooting, she's seemed to have lost herself and her willpower to even do simple tasks. However, she is making progress and seeming to slowly come to grips with the way her life is going to have to be now.

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    2. Emma H.
      Scheller 7th

      I think that Valerie’s conflict with herself is definitely the most defining conflict. It gives you a new perspective on how bad she really is hurting, and how it’s not really her fault at all. And it’s definitely impairing her judgment. Like her being really reclusive, and not wanting to go to college really shows how her internal conflicts are affecting her.

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    3. I agree with you because the main conflict of this book is Valerie v/s herself she was totally broken and hurt after the shooting and even more hurt when it was done by her boyfriend, however she makeup herself to go to school and slowly coming in grip with the way her life is going on.

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    4. Heer.p
      Mrs scheller,1st hour
      I agree with you because the main conflict of this book is Valerie v/s herself she was totally broken and hurt after the shooting and even more hurt when it was done by her boyfriend, however she makeup herself to go to school and slowly coming in grip with the way her life is going on.

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    5. Elle Redel
      Hr. 5
      Mrs. Parks
      I agree with you, Brandi. Valerie vs. herself is definitely the most prominent conflict. Without it, the book would simply be a recap of the shooting. As important as the shooting is to the theme, the conflict between Valerie and herself shows the greatest amount of growth of Valerie as a person.

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  51. Elle R

    5th hour

    Mrs. Parks
    I believe that the most important conflict in the book is Valerie vs. herself. She is learning to come to terms with the effects of the shooting, and she is learning about herself as a person. The main plot of the book is Valerie coming to terms with herself, so for obvious reasons this conflict is vital to the makeup of the novel. Although the shooting is also an important conflict, it does not portray the main theme of the book which is that sometimes you need the help others to be successful. Without this conflict, the book would simply be a recap of the shooting.

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    1. Valeriya M.
      Mrs Scheller, 1st Hour

      I would like to disagree with you. I don't think that shooting was the main conflict in the book either, but I think the reasons why it happened, what made Valerie start her Hatelist, what made her personality the way it is is the main conflict. That's why half of the book we're learning about her past and all the things that might have affected her in its own way.

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  52. Tess M.
    Mrs. Scheller 5th hour
    I think at this point in the book, the most important conflict would be Valerie’s internal conflict within herself. She still views the shooting as somewhat her fault, and she’s having a hard time accepting the fact that Jessica may actually want to be her friend. I feel like she’s thinking too much into it. She should be careful of course of accepting people who used to hate her as a new friend, but I believe Jessica is being genuine. After all, Valerie did save Jessica’s life, so the least she could do was try to repay her by being friends now and being sorry that she used to be mean to her.

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    1. Emma H.
      Scheller 7th
      I agree. I don’t think the biggest conflict was the shooting, at all. It’s the aftermath of the shooting that really caused conflict. It’s understandable why she doesn’t want to get closer with Jessica. But I really wish she would just put herself out there once or twice, because I think in the end, having Jessica there as a support system will really work in her favor.

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  53. Emma H.
    Scheller 7th
    I think the over-all biggest conflict in this book, is Valerie having to deal with the mourning process, recovery of the shooting, and the loss of her boyfriend. This conflict is 95% between her, and herself. She struggles with finding new friends, grieving a loved one, and finding a new place in the world for herself. This is basically the sole purpose of the book. It makes me sad, to see Valerie finally start to find her place, and then get shot down, time and time again. By her dad, her classmates, etc. She has handled it far better than I would have been able to, though. And she’s a strong person for it.

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  54. Valeriya M.
    Mrs. Scheller 1st Hour
    In my opinion, the theme of the book is about the environment and how it affects an individual and his/her life, actions, behavior. Valerie’s family wasn’t people she liked to spend her time with, it wasn’t people who she liked to be around. She never wanted to hurry back home, she’d rather escape with Nick who understands her problems. Her parents weren’t happy together, so the house was always loud, full of conflicts and fights. The family- is the 1st factor that influenced Valerie’s life and personality in a negative way. The 2d factor is the school environment. Valerie never liked to be in the crowd of the students, she didn’t share any interests with them, they always made fun of her, she was an outsider. So don’t you think that 2 of these huge factors pushed the start of the Hatelist? I think, it had its affect in the first place. Everything would be different, if Valerie lived in a house full of love and smiles,not hate and shouts, if she was just an average teen who was friends with regular students, not hanging out with outsiders and losers.

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  55. Heer.p
    Mrs scheller 1st hour
    I think that for this novel, the theme should be ‘ guilt for no reason’. Which exactly goes to Valerie because the main conflict of this novel, is Valerie v/s herself just because she felt guilty about herself and start hating herself for no reason and she consider herself in fault but the truth is her boyfriend shot many students of the school and then he shot himself and she thinks that it was because of her because her boyfriend shot those students who were there in her hate list. And the students of the school also consider Valerie the culprit of this issue so she also don’t want to go to school to face all of them and every one stares at her and she was struggling in making friends and making conversation with anyone but still there were some teachers and her mom and her therapist consider that Valerie was not in fault with is true. At the first day of school she feels like running away and never come to school back but that was not the only solution to this. I think that she should not care for anyone who believes that it was her fault instead of that she should forget her past and her boyfriend and just move on in her life.

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  56. Eric A.
    Mrs. Parks hour 2
    The theme for hate list could be misunderstanding can bring down a person’s self-esteem, and relationships may fault or be completely destroyed. An example to support the theme would be that almost everyone in the novel has blamed Valerie for the shooting and blaming her just because her boyfriend was the shooter, even though she never knew nick had planned this all along. Even her parents blame her for the shooting. Her father made sure that she was responsible many times in the novel and it maybe because he is secretly having affair with his secretary, which leads to her parents divorce.

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    1. Mrs. Parks 4th hour
      I agree with you Eric, people cannot always understand each other and that could lead to bad relationships and them not trusting you. in Valerie’s situation she lost her friends trust ad her parents all because of nick shooting those kids that where in the hate list because of that everyone found out about the list and that lead to people not trusting Valerie.

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  57. Chris A
    Hour 2 Parks
    The theme for the hate list is that bullying can lead to violent actions. Nick was bullied by all these people on the list. When he came to high school he wasn’t the best dressed kid in the school his hygiene was bad. That’s one of the reasons he was bullied in high school because of his lifestyle. Because his parents weren’t the wealthiest he got bullied. He didn’t care what people thought that’s why Valerie was so interested in him. Everybody I didn’t matter what group you were in was on the hate list. The first person to get shot was Christy the girl that bullied Valerie. Since nick and Val were together that was a sure target on the hate list.

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  58. Gloria R
    hr 3 parks
    in the book the theme is bullying causes harmful affects on people. nick was bullied all in high school and it just pushed him to the limit. this theme is meaningful to me because i don't think kids should bully. it hurts alot more then you think, and it can push people into retaliation. the jocks use to push nick around and make fun of him. val, nicks girlfriend use to get called "sister death". also Christy bruter took vals mp3 player and broke it. that pushed nick to the extreme and caused him to make dangerous actions.
    -love gloria

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  59. Kelsey c
    parks 2nd hr
    The theme of Hate List is sometimes the people you count on the most are the ones who let you down. I believe this is the theme because all of Valerie's closest friends weren't there when she needed them the most. For example, her best friend Stacey came to see her after the shooting in the hospital, but only to tell her that she should apologize to christy bruter. Even though she came to see her it wasn't for the right reasons. She couldn't talk to her about it, she couldn't talk to any of her friends about it. she had no one except dr.Hieler. On her first day back to school another one of her friends was making her feel bad about not going to any of the peoples graves that were on the list. this theme is so important because it shows you that people can surprise you, and people you thought could never turn there backs on you do.

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    1. Isaias A
      Mrs.Parks 4th hour
      I agree with you, because nick let his parents down and his classmates but most of all Valerie because she supported him and he let her down because she cared about him but he let her down by shooting students at his school.

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    2. Remy K
      Parks 4th hour
      I agree with you completely. Her best friend just bailed on her and didn’t even really say goodbye. I think that was also kind of selfish of Stacey. She could of at least tried to understand Valerie. The only friend that made up with Valerie is Duce.

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    3. Elle Redel
      Hr. 5
      Mrs. Parks
      I agree with you Kelsey. That theme is definitely prominent in the novel. Valerie trusted Nick more than anyone else, yet he was the one who broke her trust. On the other hand, Jessica, whom she extremely disliked at first, turned out to be one of her closest friends and someone that helps her out more than others do.

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  60. Isaias A
    Mrs.Parks 4th hour
    The theme of Hate List is that bullying can lead to violent actions. I believe this is the theme because due to nick and Valerie being bullied the decided to make a list of everything they hated. Nick was a victim of bullying and he decided to take it in his own hands and that leads to the shooting and nick making violent decision. Valerie was also a victim but she let nick take the situation instead of telling an adult that could of taken the situation more serious and deal with the situation in a nonviolent way so that people would not get hurt.

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  61. Chase M.
    Parks 4th hour
    A theme that could be represented through the novel Hate List is that bullying can lead to awful things. This theme is represented because since Nick was bullied every single day by many students in and outside of school it really started to take a toll on his mental state. Not only did the bulling lead to the extremely violent and deadly school shooting, but it also lead to Nick taking his own life. I do not think that Nick’s behaviors are justified because of the bullying, but I think that if he would not have been bullied then these thing most likely wouldn't have happened.

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    1. Remy K.
      Parks 4th hour
      I agree with your theme. If people didn’t bully Nick and Valerie the shooting wouldn’t have even happened. And maybe they could’ve even been friends with more people. This goes to show that Bullying can lead to awful things.

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    2. Tess M.
      Mrs. Scheller 7th hour
      Chase, I agree with what you said very much so. If it weren't for the constant day-to-day bullying Nick received, things would have turned out much differently. I think it's very unfortunate that it would take something as extreme as a school shooting for people to realize that bullying will never be okay, and will always lead to negative things to happen.

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  62. Remy K.
    Parks 4th hour
    The theme of my book is people don’t always turn out the way you thought they would. Its important to the book because Valerie’s old enemy, Jessica, called her nasty names and gave her a hard time at school and after the shooting Jessica made an effort to be friends with Valerie. Valerie thought she would be the same and was surprised by this. This theme is meaningful to me because people in my family had a rough past and I didn’t know how they would end up but now they are successful. A couple of examples of the theme would be Valerie thinking about Nick. Valerie had no idea Nick would turn out like he did.

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    1. Tess M.
      Mrs. Scheller 7th hour
      I agree with you, Remy. Not only was Valerie wrong about Jessica and Nick, but several other people as well. I think she finally sees that if you just give people a chance, they might not be exactly how you first perceive them to be, which is a very valuable lesson.

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  63. Brandi Wellman 5th hour
    Mrs. Parks Mrs.DiCarlo
    I think the theme of this story is things do not always turn out the way you planned. When Valerie wanted Nick to talk to Christy, she expected him to be rude to her, she never expected him to shoot her, along with other student. Also, she never expected to become friends with Jessica because Jessica would always make fun of Valerie and call her names, like sister death. This is meaningful to me because things that I would like to happen; sometimes, do not always happen the way I would like them to happen to me.

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  64. Ben M.
    Parks 5th hour

    The theme of The Hate List is “No matter how hard life is, it will always work out for the better in the end.” I find this theme meaningful because I can personally relate to being in tough and bad situations but in the end they make life better than it was before. Through the entire book, Valerie has one big problem after another but in the conclusion they make her life even better than it was before. It does this by her making more and better friends then before and understanding those around her and having them get and understand her.

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  65. Elle Redel
    Hr. 5
    Mrs. Parks
    One idea or theme illustrated in the novel is that sometimes you need the help of others to achieve success. This theme is meaningful to me because I believe it to be very true. At the beginning of the novel, Valerie believes that she only needs herself. She has no desire to make friends, and even thinks that she would be better off without them. But as the novel progresses, she begins to an acquaintance with Jessica. Valerie becomes involved in a student council project, begins going to art classes, and even begins to make more friends. As soon as Valerie lets others in her life to help her, she learns to accept herself as a person and she is able to move on from Nick and the shooting.

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    1. Emma H.
      Scheller 7th
      Elle, I completely agree. She uses the love and support of other people to get her through, like her counselor, her friends, even her little brother. Without them I believe this book would have ended with Val still mourning the death of nick in an unhealthy way. With other people’s help she was able to see the light at the end of the tunnel and get through the rough times.

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  66. Tess M.
    Mrs. Scheller 7th hour
    I think the biggest theme of Hate List is to never give up. Even when things are terrible and you think they will never get better, they will eventually. For example, after the shooting, Valerie believed that she could never go back to school. She thought that everyone would hate her. Despite what she thought, things eventually got better. She became friends with Jessica, and not everyone blamed her for what happened. Another example of this theme is when Valerie is terrified to go talk to the parents of the victims, and survivors themselves. Even though she was weary of doing so, she knew she had to, so she did. She was successful with what she wanted and talked about it at the graduation ceremony.

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    1. Emma H.
      Scheller 7th
      Tess, I think if Val gave up there would have been no plot to the story. The fact that she gets knocked down time after time and keeps on putting herself out there really shows her true character. In the end all she needed was a little perseverance to get up, and get on with her life.

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  67. Emma H.
    Scheller 7th
    Though it’s cheesy, and cliché I think the main theme of this novel is sometimes letting go is the key to moving on. The longer that Val held onto Nick, the harder it got for her to move on. She spent countless nights wondering to herself what she could have done differently, and different outcomes. It eventually consumed her, and she has a hard time making friends, and forgiving herself and others. As soon as she let Jessica into her life, and let go of Nick she opened up. Visiting Nicks grave was the most important part of the book for me. Because saying goodbye to him, welcomed in an entire new world of opportunities for her.

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